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What is Pro-choice?
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Posted 2 months ago I may sound really silly asking this, but I have only resently started thinking about this kind of stuff. Everytime I see a discussion about Pro-Choice, it is about abortion. Isn't Pro-Choice more than that? Before now, If somebody hassled me about being a chick, or doing anything I wanted, I would just pop em in the nose. Now I have hung up my boxing gloves (except for working out) and I'm curious about this new battle arena. (yes, I have been living under a rock) |
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| Posted 2 months ago You raise a very good point. Pro choice could mean many things. But the context in which it is currently being used refers only to abortion. Imagination. . .is the power that enables us to empathise with humans whose experiences we have never shared. (J.K. Rowling) |
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| Posted 2 months ago Pro-choice means it is a womans right to choose what to do or not to do to her body and no one else BUT her. To abort or not to abort, to tattoo or not to tattoo, to pierce or not to pierce, etc. It means YOU have the right to do what you want to YOURSELF and no one has the right to tell you otherwise or to stop you because its against their ideals. "The brick walls are not there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to give us a chance to show how badly we want something. Because the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want it badly enough."-Randy Pausch |
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| Posted 2 months ago So, is it a legal battle? I don't want to smoke dope, but I know my sister is never going to stop doing it. And if it is legal, then she wouldn't be getting into trouble all the time. Does that make legalizing marijuana a pro-choice thing, too? Or s that already a Pro-choice thing? It just seems that it is such a large movement for only one or to issues. If it was all about abortion than they would probably call it The Abortion Legalization Movement. I didn't know that tattoos were an issue. I got alot of those. What else is involved?
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| Posted 2 months ago Unfortunately, it has turned into a legal issue and a huge political issue on whether or not abortion should be legal or illegal. Politicians like to turn it into Pro-choice or Pro-Life and lets forget about all the gray areas. Should a woman be using abortion as a form of birth control? Doesn't the child have rights? However, if you are victim of incest or rape, shouldn't you have the right to abort? This is why this is an issue and a controversial one at that. Another question, should the government and our legal system have a say in the issue? That is why it is so important to vote your interests and beliefs, and on the issues. I think this issue is a historical one, that there will never be a resolution and everyone will have their own opinion - that is what makes our nation great - is that you can have an opinion and you don't have to agree with everything your leaders say. Stay informed and vote - come to your own conclusions. Jodie Peruski, CMA, Owner of Charmed Essentials, LLC |
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| Posted 2 months ago Here is MY point of view.... Pro choice is just that.. Choice To me some believe, that just because you want the right to choose an abortion, that you will have one. Mostly for me it's about the government or anyone for that matter to telling me what I can and can't do with my body. I want a safe choice for women...not a back alley alternative. I do not support abortion, but it doesn't mean that if in the situation I wouldn't consider it. Knowing that if I chose to have one, I would want it to be safe, maybe regulated by a qualified professional, rather than visiting a shady doctor in some storage facility to have it done. Since your new to the issue I have some advice.....don't judge people unless you walk in their shoes...chose your side but respect that people will have passionate views about this issue and they could differ from yours. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Wow. I need to take some time and contemplate that one. That's very interesting. Choices are everywhere. I make one every day when I decide not to take a drink, or to take a drink, or what to drink. I guess people make choices everyday that would drastically change people's lives. Doesn't that mean that we already have all of the choices that we are talking about? What it sounds like is that people want freedom to be able to act on these choices. Therefor each choice has to be broken down into individual entities instead of lumped together into one generalized movement. It still sounds like pro-choice means Abortion Legalization. And therfore Pro-life is Anti-abortion. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago That's the difference between the pro-choice and pro-life groups. Pro-choice does not want any government regulation on what a woman does with her body. Pro-life wants to focus on stopping abortion. You can't not discuss the "hypotheticals" because the "hypotheticals" are the primary reason a woman or child want to get an abortion. A very low percentage want to use it as birthcontrol an oh yeah by the way the government now want to include birthcontrol and make it illegal along with abortion. Forcing a child who is the victim of rape or incest to carry that child to full term is child abuse. Forcing a woman who is the victim of rape to carry that child to full term is emotional psychological and physical abuse. If you make abortion illegal for one, it will be illegal for all, and the government of a country born of religious freedom has no right to regulate the reproductive processes of it's citizens. You can not say that the US was born of Christian morals when several of the founding fathers were athiests. It was born of multiple groups of people seeking to escape religeous persecution. As for health care. people don't want the government to run it. they just want the govenment to fund it so that if you are in a lower income bracket and your child is raped, she can get the medical care she needs and not be turned away because she is uninsured. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Respectfully back... that is part of the problem...our government only focuses on part of the problem then makes broad based laws that do not suit the situation as a whole.
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| Posted about 1 month ago I posted this in another forum, hopefully this will help answer your question Marie.
Also this... www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf (2004 study on abortion, including reasons) "Your absence has gone through me, Like thread through a needle. Everything I do is stitched with its color." ~William S. Merwin
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| Posted about 1 month ago I understand what your point Maria. The reason I posted the Worldwide stats & legal vs. illegal stats is that it proves law isn't going to make much of a difference - even if it could be changed here. I do want to make it clear that I don't condone abortion, I don't believe it's right (in most cases, not all), but I'm not God. I will not look down on others who make the choice, I am imperfect and have no right to judge. My thing is, the law is already in place, there are too many in support of it. Fighting to reverse roe v wade will get this country nowhere. Teaching responsiblities of sex/safe sex/abstinence is key. It IS parents responsiblity, but parents won't always do it, so schools should be a part of it as well. "Your absence has gone through me, Like thread through a needle. Everything I do is stitched with its color." ~William S. Merwin
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| Posted about 1 month ago Oh Maria, you shouldn't apologize, at least not in my opinion anyway! I can see why other's don't want it reversed. They see it as a slippery slope, if the government will control that, what else will they control? Some of those abortion statistics indicate a high number of women w/ religious affiliations. I believe that lack of sex education and (as a result of that lack) the shame that many have regarding sex are the contributing factors to our high pregnancy and abortion rate. Should an adequate sex education system implemented, there will be minority who, despite having great awareness through sex education, will still end up in that situation, still end up choosing abortion even though it was "consentual sex" or not a health issue. We are definitely selfish as a society, TV, Media, the hectic lives we lead, the demand for now rather than later - have all contributed to this mentality. Abortion is a very divisive issue, but for many who choose to do so, it is often a very difficult, personal, heart-wrenching decision to make - even for those who have what some would consider to be selfish reasons. As a result, PASS is something that many women suffer from. I just, I think of it as, if my daughter made the decision, how would I feel? How would I react? There would be discussions, definitely, but she would still recieve compassion, and warm, welcome arms from me. We can't control the decisions they make, any more than a mother can control their child when he/she is out of site. The legality isn't going to change, IMO, but we must make the best of this world we live in. I guess, what I mean to say, is that we (those who believe it's wrong in most cases) have to look at these women and their decision with compassion and empathy - just as we would most others who are faced with and make other difficult mistakes/decisions and work to change this lack of education and shame in regard to sex. "Your absence has gone through me, Like thread through a needle. Everything I do is stitched with its color." ~William S. Merwin
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| Posted about 1 month ago Rachelle says ...
I'm just pointing out a fact, though it doesn't pertain to the topic at hand: Of the first 42 presidents 11-Episcopalian 10-Presbyterian 5-Methodist 4-Baptist 4-Uniterian 3-Disciples of Christ 2-Dutch Reformed 2-Quaker 2-Congretionalist 1-Catholic 1-Jahovah's Witness 0-Atheist
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| Posted about 1 month ago Birth control pills are a synthetic form of the hormones progesterone and estrogen. They prevent ovulation by maintaining more consistent hormone levels. Without a peak in estrogen, then, the ovary doesn't get the signal to release an egg. No egg means no possibility for fertilization and pregnancy. If no egg is released, then firtilization of that egg is prevented. Therefor, no conception and no abortion. Prevention is not abortion. Illegalization of Birth Control Pills would not stick, at least not on the grounds of anti-abortion. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago caojam says ...
That is exactly right, just like the new IUD, it doesn't allow the sperm to enter the uterus, no conception, no abortion. Jean Bentley
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| Posted about 1 month ago Pro-choice is having many options when it comes to medical procedures. I believe this is also an abstract term becaus everyone's moral standards differ. Pro-choice is like a multiple choice question with no wrong answer - choose your best answer. If you made a choice per sey, to give a baby up for adoption even after going through a traumatic experence of rape, choosng to keep an unwanted pregnancy,or have had an abortion - accordng to your moral standards and how you define pro-choice; you made a chioce you made that suited you best. |
